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November 20, 2008 5:31 PM PST

OK, enough of the electric car feel-good story

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Mayors representing the Bay Area's three largest cities pledged Thursday they would work together to transform the region into the country's "electric vehicle capital."

At the same time,the global electric transportation company headed by Shai Agassi, Better Place, Announced plans to enter the U.S. market, beginning here.

The news warms this die-hard greenie's ecologically correct cockles. But can we dispense already with the pipe dream that the electric revolution will be brought to a filling station near you, courtesy of the far-sighted policies of local leadership?

That's not to say that government intervention can't help kick start industries in need with the right dose of economic stimulus. But for better or for worse, it's up to the auto industry--or what soon may be left of it--to bring the idea to life. (I'm assuming that Uncle Sam is not going to nationalize Detroit's car makers. Then again, there are any number of things I never expected this government to do. So who knows?)

If you want to see the glass as half full, there is encouraging news to report. At the LA Auto Show this week in Los Angeles, BMW, Mitsubishi, and Chrysler all demoed electric cars. Meanwhile, General Motors says that its Chevy Volt is still on track for 2011, assuming GM doesn't run out of money first. Elsewhere, Nissan-Renault, working with the state and the utilities company, Portland General Electric, hopes to have an electric car in the Oregon market within the next couple of years. The company's CEO predicts Nissan will have a mass market version ready by 2012. Cool.

But in the absence of a big hand from the federal government, all these vehicles will depend upon a patchwork system built by cities and towns. Can it get built that way? Maybe over decades, though fits and starts.

VentureBeat's Chris Morrison noted that Thursday's press conference suggested a new level of seriousness about electric cars.

"That might seem to have been the case before, but it's worth remembering that California was the backdrop for previous failures to commercialize electric cars, providing inspiration for the documentary Who Killed the Electric Car? And the California Air Resources Board has repeatedly relaxed requirements for automakers throughout its lifetime, providing loopholes to escape switching off the combustion engine."

All true. The announcement shows good intentions, but knowing human nature it's only reasonable to believe people will continue to behave as they always have. Seems to me that the magnitude of the challenge is beyond the capacity of any municipality, alone or in coordination with its neighbors--assuming we want to do it right.

In 1956, President Dwight Eisenhower signed into law the federal act that authorized the construction of the Interstate Highway System, which proved so crucial in the development of the country in the decades since. Any reason why that same sort of leadership today couldn't pave the way for a nationwide grid of electric-based transport?

After January 20, when the new administration takes power, maybe we'll find out.

Charles Cooper has covered technology and business for more than 25 years. Before joining CNET News, he worked at the Associated Press, Computer & Software News, Computer Shopper, PC Week, and ZDNet. E-mail Charlie.
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by shmody November 20, 2008 5:48 PM PST
Sounds exciting to me! What would be better (and encourage a little green competition) is to have a rival region... ;)

Best,
Shalin
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by Holly Klug November 20, 2008 8:18 PM PST
My idea of electric transport is a train, without those pesky batteries, that will be the next ecological disaster.
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by SteveW928 November 20, 2008 11:39 PM PST
I agree on the batteries... they are a huge problem. The other things that are needed 1) Utility-scale solar power plants 2) Distribution grid to get the power out of the sunny spots and onto the grid 3) nation-wide charging system. Until this happens, electric cars are only really pollution-shifting technology. They basically allows urban greenies with fat wallets a way to feel good about themselves. On a national scale, the above things are needed before the electric car is practical or really making much of a dent in emissions. That said... outside the battery issues, we have all the technology to do this... we just have to get going on it. I agree with the author that a project of this scale needs a push from the government... I'd say at least working on the electric grid aspect.
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by tsport100 November 21, 2008 3:43 AM PST
Enough with the tin pot journos writing editorails like they can tell the new president what to do.... it's ALL OVER THE MEDIA and it's the height of arrogance! Run for office if you want the job!
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by November 21, 2008 6:08 AM PST
In other words, you're saying our president elect is all knowing and has no need of conversation or advice with someone possibly more knowledgable on a particular subject. I'm afraid you're in for some disillusionment.
by tsport100 December 4, 2008 9:58 PM PST
MY EXACT POINT, you're believing your own PR pal!

You're a member of the Pundit Class... an armchair experts!

How are you, a news editor and former PC magazine journalist, qualified to give advice on any subject? LOL Run for office or apply to be an advisor pal, it might fracture your "all knowing" daydream!
by November 21, 2008 6:05 AM PST
All I can add to the conversation is check the science. As an engineer, I was always amused by Scottie's admonition the "Ye cannae violate the laws of physics." It's the truth and the source of many of our "green" disasters.
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by billmosby November 21, 2008 9:06 AM PST
Batteries, batteries. Is there any hope that an ultracapacitor can be developed to do the job?
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by Stormspace November 21, 2008 10:01 AM PST
I think cnet needs to make a decision about whether it's going to be a local or global news source. So, while news about electric vehicles in the "bay area" might be relevant overall it makes me wonder if the same consideration might have been made for someplace like Wilmington, NC. I guess I'd like to see a less bay centric news reporting from cnet.
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by BtmnHatesRbn November 21, 2008 11:56 AM PST
You forget that the Bay Area is the entire tech "world". Or it was during the 1980s and 1990s, right?

Other note, if the electric car is running on batteries, how would it work in a region like where I live where the temps in the summer is around 120 F and in the winter is around 70 F? The batteries would run out just sitting at the Wal-Mart parking lot. I know this because of all of the short-life the batteries have when I left my iPod or cell phone out in the car while I went shopping or went into office.
by crusadex November 21, 2008 2:34 PM PST
I honestly don't think electric is the way to go.We still have to produce the stuff with coal ,natural gas and hrydro.Only one of those is cost effective.Solar and Wind,someday maybe.
I really don't want to be stuck with a car with little range and high cost electricity.
When my average one way trip is 80 miles electric isn't gonna happen.
Oh yeah Obama did say electricty prices will "nessacrily "go through the roof under his regime.
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by ittesi259 November 21, 2008 3:02 PM PST
If you are gonna make a comment like that cite your source or keep your mouth shut. Using the word regime also brings your objectiveness into question.
by mchinsky November 22, 2008 8:19 AM PST
Obama did say this in a video taped interview with a liberal newspaper. I think it was the SF Chronicle but not sure. If you are looking for objectiveness, reading blog posting on CNET, which is headquartered in the leftist central capital of the US is the last place you'll hear reality.

JUst like this whole story. If every car went electric tomorrow, where would you plug them all in and how would that energy be produced? Would you be willing to pay the equivelent of $15/gallon of gas to fund the cost of solar cells and wind towers and electric infrastructure to keep them charged?

The real answer has been with us for 50 years...Nuclear, but thanks to Jane Fonda, that's never going to be an option with democrats in control.

I'll eat my shirt if you guys are right and I'm wrong on this...
by SteveW928 November 22, 2008 8:33 PM PST
Obama kind of told whatever group he spoke with what they wanted to hear... so it wouldn't surprise me.

That said, I think electricity is the right direction, as we CAN make a lot of electricity pretty cheaply. The key isn't solar cells or wind, but utility size solar thermal type plants. They basically use mirrors to heat liquid in tubes up.. which then heat a type of silicon up to like 700+F. This can then run generators 24x7, just like a utility that runs on fossil fuels. It isn't future tech either, we can do it today... we just have to build them and get the electric grid worked out to distribute it properly. Then, yes, the batteries for cars are an issue... but we're not that far away on that. Either way though, we can use electricity for just about everything else... and if the sun is making it... its much more stable than other forms of fuel.
by Tom Budlong November 21, 2008 8:58 PM PST
I remember sixty years ago, as a 12-year old kid, reading that electric cars were just a few years off, when 'they' developed the battery. I keep reading the same now. Reminds me of the joke: "Introduction of hydroelectric power in the Sahara awaits only the introduction of water."

But, with enough clever people now working on it, maybe something will finally happen. Just so the gov't does not spend money on the research. Private companies can do what they want with their money, and more power to them.
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by Scott Gardener November 26, 2008 4:45 PM PST
Personally, I'd like to see a geostationary orbital ring around Earth, with numerous gound-to-space elevator spokes that serve as both lift cables and energy pipes, with a massive array of solar panels. Better yet, screw it; let's make a Dyson sphere. I know, it'll take thousands of years, but the sooner we get started...
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